Thu 31 Jan 2008
For the last four years, my law practice has consisted mainly of home mortgage closings for people refinancing their debts. Typically, they’re paying off credit cards and car loans or substituting fixed-rate debt for variable rate debt or financing their kids’ education. Some are in straits, with past due taxes or other delinquencies, and some are already mortgaged to the hilt.
I act as signing agent in most of these transactions and don’t represent either the bank or the borrower, and so I’m free to counsel a borrower who inquires. I offer only legal counsel and not financial guidance. My wife Ruth is a notary public and conducts similar transactions, but without the legal advice. Between the two of us we’ve been exposed to dozens of lenders and hundreds of borrowers, and we’ve seen a lot.
We’ve seen huge disparities between the deals obtained by people with exemplary credit and people with average ratings. The people who are financing a cruise or a swimming pool borrow at rates far below those who are barely making their “nut” every month. The theory is that the bank bears less risk and so can afford to offer better terms. It might easily be mistaken for poor people subsidizing the credit of comfortable people.
We’ve seen borrowers in trouble–they don’t usually tell us why, but death, marital breakdown, unemployment, and illness are often apparent from the documents–pay ten or fifteen thousand dollars in fees out of the proceeds of a loan that yields them nothing but respite from creditors. A few lenders have sent us out with documents showing a bottom line to the borrower that was thousands of dollars short of the amount expected. Some of these people, when I advised them not to sign, felt they had no choice and took the deal anyway.
“I thought this was a fixed-rate loan,” a borrower might complain.
“For three years,” I’d answer, “then variable. Better call the loan broker.” Who’d not be there, most often. I quit conducting transactions for a couple of lenders, and I’m persona non grata with a couple of others that I caught in predatory practices like these. One lender wanted me to backdate documents. I sent an email to the state attorney-general on that one, but I never heard back.
It never occurred to Ruth and me that the high-interest/high-risk loans we were handling were a major driver of the U.S. economy, but that seems to have been the case. We did both notice that the appraisals were coming in a little high. Three hundred thou for a six-room ranch in West Hartford (four hundred for the same thing in Fairfield) seemed a bit steep. Two working people with two jobs each can’t afford that kind of mortgage and still eat. Either working people’s wages would have to go up by a third, or house prices would have to come down. We called that one.
My practice is pretty dead, and I receive intimations every so often from people in banking and real estate that things are going to get worse before they get better. The home mortgage industry, in which the responsible lenders share the same pool as the racketeers, seems to have closed up shop for now, at least to the average borrower. A little regulation could have gone a long way here, but it’s too late now. And it’s hard to see how doling out a few hundred bucks to voters in an election year will help debtors who are in trouble or make it possible for ordinary people to own a house.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:34 am
Steve, a couple of comments…
People with good credit scores should be rewarded with lower interest rates on loans. If you are a responsible citizen that pays bills on time, doesn’t max out credit cards, etc. there should be some type of reward for you. If you show a historical pattern of late payments, non-payments, or overextending credit cards, you should be penalized with a higher interest rate. This is the only way for a bank to offset the risk that you may not repay your loan, based on the historical payment pattern.
That being said, many people were guided towards products that were not in the best financial interest for them. While they may have qualified for a lower interest rate, vanilla products, many were guided towards more exotic products with lower initial payments and higher rates, simply so the loan originator could earn higher fees. That’s a serious issue.
Would regulation help? Most likely. It’s not clear how much intervention should be made at this point, but I believe there should be some type of regulation in the lending industry. Take heart that many of the “bad” lenders will find themselves out of work as the industry slows. Social Darwinism will weed them out. If regulation is put in place in the meantime, they most likely will not come back when the market picks up.
Regarding the stimulus package’s refunds, the only way it will help the economy is if people go out and buy more “stuff.” It will not help the economy if people pay down debt.
Additionally, I believe with the economy that “perception is reality.” If the national media keeps beating us over the head with negative economic press time and time again, people will begin to adjust their behavior to act like we are in tough times, even if it’s not really that bad. Maybe the latest rate cuts by the Fed and the stimulus package will be enough to get a positive spin for a little while. That may be the momentum we need to get people to change their perception and their actions.
Just my $.02.
January 31st, 2008 at 2:32 pm
This is what we need more of: personal dispatches from the trenches of the lender/borrower battlefield. The usual economic reporting makes my eyes glaze over.
As for rebates, politicians love to give back the money they took in taxes and pat themselves on the back while they do it. Usually it goes to the bigtime donors. This time, everybody gets a taste.
So let’s spend/consume our way to heaven on earth. We don’t know any other way.
January 31st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
thanks for sharing. but, i’d like to know when are people going to take personal responsibilities for their actions? granted unfortunate cases happen where either divorce or a death comes up as you mention and all of a sudden there are unexpected fees. surely that can’t be the majority of cases? i mean everyone dies and half the couples get divorced and cope with it.
what irritates me are all the new mortgages that were signed at these ridiculous rates. do people not read the piece of paper they’re signing hundreds of thousands of dollars on? how hard is it to understand the “variable after X years” part? lastly but not least, who forced them to buy a house at these prices/rates?
i understand what you’re pointing out: the little guy gets kicked harder and there must be basic procedures that would prevent that from happening, in the ideal world. but, what about just natural progression? what about those, not-so-smart people that carelessly overleveraged themselves? do they need saving? let the nature weed out some…
perhaps instead of more regulating there could be more educating.
January 31st, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Yeah, let nature weed them out…because they are basically worthless shite…How do we know? Because if they weren’t worthless they’d be rich. Get it? Worth as a human being = Worth in $$$$.
On the other hand, let’s make sure that every cry-baby CEO has some Washington politicians personally come to their office to hold their hands and wipe away their tears.
Because that’s how capitalism really operates. This isn’t John Smith and the invisible hand. This is a state that is organized so that whenever the economy takes a tumble it’s working people who take a tumble along with it…and its the corporations who get bailed out.
January 31st, 2008 at 5:53 pm
pete,
perhaps you know something that i don’t: but really, how does someone consciously sign for a mortgage that uses up all their disposable income while reading over the variable rate part is a byproduct of “…a state that is organized so that whenever the economy takes a tumble it’s working people who take a tumble along with it…and its the corporations who get bailed out.”
why, really, should they be bailed out? i couldn’t afford an apartments in hartford and i didn’t buy it.
i could have bought, defaulted on my mortgage, get help and buy the same apartment that now sells for 50k less. go me and go the helping hand.
January 31st, 2008 at 6:18 pm
“ol” do you at least agree that for every dollar spent bailing out failed corporations, subsidizing agribusiness, and propping up failed industries, a dollar should be spent bailing out people who will actually suffer when the economy takes a plunge?
Otherwise what you’re saying is that welfare is only a problem when it’s given to the people who need it.
January 31st, 2008 at 8:32 pm
If the sole purpose of credit is to give those with too much money something profitable to do with it, then creditworthiness has to be the main factor in determining the return.
But if the purpose is to allow people to lift themselves out of poverty or start something from scratch or get through hard times, thereby improving the general quality of life for all, then we might want to consider new ways of apportioning credit.
Whenever money changes hands, profit-takers gather like scavengers, and home mortgage lending is no exception. State and federal regulators know this, but for some reason they’re always reluctant to interfere, even to stop bait-and-switch tactics that put borrowers against the wall. Now, they’re getting tough. Now that it’s too late.
February 1st, 2008 at 11:49 am
pete,
there are a lot of things that are wrong and hypocritical. because farmers and banks are bailed out doesn’t mean that ignorant mortgage borrowers should be. ideally the former should not be given a free bailout and would suffer natural effects. so in that matter i don’t agree that for every other idiotic decision made towards corporate america and equally stupid one has to be made for the masses. i don’t think that was the original idea behind welfare.
this is a whole different discussion but i was reading yesterday how the bank loan backers are complaining if they were to lose their aaa rating they’re in a dire position and would go out of business. to me it’s in the same lines as someone failing a class and saying to the professor “even though i’m a moron and did nothing you really can’t fail me because my parents won’t pay my tuition and the university won’t get the money they need and there won’t be a paycheck for you”.
classical scam — create an artificial problem that no one needed in the first place and claim you’re the only one that can solve it. i’m going to write my law school application on this.
February 1st, 2008 at 12:49 pm
ol,
I would be inclined to support a system of government that cut some slack for the little guy just trying to get by. But once you reach a certain standard of living or wielded an inordinate amount of political/economic clout, the system should make sure you don’t abuse your position. Sounds like you want to nail people regardless of their position in the pecking order.
February 1st, 2008 at 2:01 pm
jim,
i don’t have a problem with what you’re saying and i think that would be the utopian definition of how a welfare system should function.
no, i don’t want everyone to get nailed equally. as steve showed from his personal experience there are people that because of unexpected difficulties might have to default on a mortgage. i pity those and they should apply for help and receive it.
whom i really want to get nailed are the speculator builders, lenders, insurers and also buyers that maxed out their credits and signed unrealistic loans, people that took out home equity loans to buy luxury cars (i know people like that personally) even though the consequences that this isn’t going to work were visible 2-3 years ago. unfairly most of the large builders and lenders will probably claim bankruptcy and start the same cycle in another 2-3 years when things are picking up again. in the mean time forests got chopped out all over ct for new condos and behemoth houses that no one is buying.
problem is that i doubt there’s enough effort or even manpower available to go through this discrimination process and all these cases will just get lumped up into one “help package”.
February 1st, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Sociopathic types are not all that common among homeowners. There are plenty of irresponsible people, but only the rich ones manage to acquire or hang on to any property to speak of. Predators can readily be distinguished from prey in this industry.