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	<title>Comments on: Dozens Enjoy Middletown Food Not Bombs Meal, Police Issue 2 Tickets</title>
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		<title>By: kat new haven</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat new haven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just heard that some bozo from ct food bank assembly scolded FNB during a presentation to highschoolers where my sister teaches. I was livid. Humans got along for thousands of years without health inspectors because they relied on their sight, smell and taste senses and the trust established via COMMUNITIES to eat healthy fresh stuff. Now people mindlessly eat stuff purchased from companies....ct food bank assembly mindlessly acquiesced to time wasting protocols all to the detriment of people who are hungry and perpetuating a whole system whose goal is to enrich few and keep poor people poor. Paperwork and isopropyl wipes aren&#039;t going to stop people from occasionally eating spoiled food. We could feed more people if we didn&#039;t rely on the gvt for so much and didn&#039;t waste time on paperwork/ non relevant paperwork. I like the way people critique FNB when they know nothing about it. Its a bunch of ANARCHISTS having a potluck. Really thoughtful critiques...NOT. Way to go you bunch of well-behaved automatons. I miss you guys in hartford. If health inspections are the end all be all of health safety I hope these people ask for documentation of passed inspection before eating anything purchased or received from a stranger. Otherwise their position is logically incoherent. I liked the codepods/ rotifers in the gvt inspected MDC water and salmonella outbreaks that occured under the veil of all these types of official protocols and regulations. Sweet system there...- kat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just heard that some bozo from ct food bank assembly scolded FNB during a presentation to highschoolers where my sister teaches. I was livid. Humans got along for thousands of years without health inspectors because they relied on their sight, smell and taste senses and the trust established via COMMUNITIES to eat healthy fresh stuff. Now people mindlessly eat stuff purchased from companies&#8230;.ct food bank assembly mindlessly acquiesced to time wasting protocols all to the detriment of people who are hungry and perpetuating a whole system whose goal is to enrich few and keep poor people poor. Paperwork and isopropyl wipes aren&#8217;t going to stop people from occasionally eating spoiled food. We could feed more people if we didn&#8217;t rely on the gvt for so much and didn&#8217;t waste time on paperwork/ non relevant paperwork. I like the way people critique FNB when they know nothing about it. Its a bunch of ANARCHISTS having a potluck. Really thoughtful critiques&#8230;NOT. Way to go you bunch of well-behaved automatons. I miss you guys in hartford. If health inspections are the end all be all of health safety I hope these people ask for documentation of passed inspection before eating anything purchased or received from a stranger. Otherwise their position is logically incoherent. I liked the codepods/ rotifers in the gvt inspected MDC water and salmonella outbreaks that occured under the veil of all these types of official protocols and regulations. Sweet system there&#8230;- kat</p>
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		<title>By: dave r</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments Margaret. It highlights what a backward society we have become where you can get ticketed and arrested or lose your job for helping those that are hungry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments Margaret. It highlights what a backward society we have become where you can get ticketed and arrested or lose your job for helping those that are hungry.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is rather strange, honestly... I worked in the food industry for years, and believed the health department was there to protect consumers (aka, the people BUYING food) from irresponsible food handling. Then myself and a few other coworkers noticed how much food we discarded on a daily basis- food that could be served elsewhere that was still in fact safe to eat. I lost my job by taking the discarded food to a nearby shelter. Reason listed: gross violation of health department standards.

You cannot travel to a single city in the US without finding a bake sale. They are held by churches, schools and charity groups- they are all unregulated and the food inspectors do not monitor these events. Potlucks are held at churches and other social events- many held outdoors on public property, and unregulated. I&#039;ve seen people serve food at concerts (phish and dead shows)- with not a single inspector in sight to issue violations against food that was cooked on top of someone&#039;s automobile engine as they drove in for the show.

I have never understood why there were so many limitations placed on those who are attempting to help others in need, yet none are placed on those private groups seeking to make a profit on food to benefit an organization. There is no difference between serving food to the homeless in a public venue and a church bake sale- other than the transfer of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is rather strange, honestly&#8230; I worked in the food industry for years, and believed the health department was there to protect consumers (aka, the people BUYING food) from irresponsible food handling. Then myself and a few other coworkers noticed how much food we discarded on a daily basis- food that could be served elsewhere that was still in fact safe to eat. I lost my job by taking the discarded food to a nearby shelter. Reason listed: gross violation of health department standards.</p>
<p>You cannot travel to a single city in the US without finding a bake sale. They are held by churches, schools and charity groups- they are all unregulated and the food inspectors do not monitor these events. Potlucks are held at churches and other social events- many held outdoors on public property, and unregulated. I&#8217;ve seen people serve food at concerts (phish and dead shows)- with not a single inspector in sight to issue violations against food that was cooked on top of someone&#8217;s automobile engine as they drove in for the show.</p>
<p>I have never understood why there were so many limitations placed on those who are attempting to help others in need, yet none are placed on those private groups seeking to make a profit on food to benefit an organization. There is no difference between serving food to the homeless in a public venue and a church bake sale- other than the transfer of money.</p>
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		<title>By: Hartford IMC &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Food Not Bombs Takes Legal Action</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hartford IMC &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Food Not Bombs Takes Legal Action</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a series of crackdowns by Middletown officials against Middletown Food Not Bombs, the food activists are going on the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Food Not Bombs Continues to Ignite Controversy : Eat. Drink. Better.</title>
		<link>http://hartfordimc.org/2009/04/27/dozens-enjoy-middletown-food-not-bombs-meal-police-issue-2-tickets/comment-page-1/#comment-881</link>
		<dc:creator>Food Not Bombs Continues to Ignite Controversy : Eat. Drink. Better.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 14:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Connecticut group was recently ticketed for ignoring a cease and desist order issued by local police for serving food form an unlicensed kitchen.  You can read their story here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Connecticut group was recently ticketed for ignoring a cease and desist order issued by local police for serving food form an unlicensed kitchen.  You can read their story here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Read, then digest: picture this CKP Blog: Resources and Updates on Our National Initiatives</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Read, then digest: picture this CKP Blog: Resources and Updates on Our National Initiatives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 17:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dozens Enjoy Middletown Food Not Bombs Meal, Police Issue 2 Tickets: These Wesleyan students do something a bit different with food recovery and redistribution, but their recent run-in with the police highlights some signficant questions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dozens Enjoy Middletown Food Not Bombs Meal, Police Issue 2 Tickets: These Wesleyan students do something a bit different with food recovery and redistribution, but their recent run-in with the police highlights some signficant questions. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Samuels</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Samuels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the article on FNB in today&#039;s Courant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the article on FNB in today&#8217;s Courant.</p>
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		<title>By: David Samuels</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Samuels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be a great topic for RadioActive... We could go to Middletown &amp; interview folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be a great topic for RadioActive&#8230; We could go to Middletown &amp; interview folks.</p>
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		<title>By: David Samuels</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Samuels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abbey just hit the nail on the head...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abbey just hit the nail on the head&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: abbey volcano</title>
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		<dc:creator>abbey volcano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These &quot;regulations&quot; from the health dept. are most definitely about not wanting to see hungry and homeless people on the street- not about making sure they get safe food to eat. the city doesn&#039;t want people making the mistake of thinking they can take care of themselves and live (even if it&#039;s just for a hour a week) in a way that prefigures a world in which the state and their various regulations aren&#039;t necessary. now there&#039;s something to be scared about. heh.

but this argument that &quot;poor&quot; people should get the same &quot;protection&quot; from the state (ie- when sharing meals with FNB) that rich folks get(ie- people who pay for their prepared food)is just distracting. first- FNB is a SHARED MEAL in the park, on the street, etc... it is not a restaurant or a charity. it&#039;s also a distraction b/c the notion is based on the misconception that the state is here to protect the poor, the hungry, the homeless. look around you. the state is here to protect the wealthy. in a liberal capitalist society like ours you can only buy your freedom and your &quot;rights&quot;, and if you can&#039;t afford them, then you don&#039;t get them. the state is here to protect private property and the lives of the rich and wealthy. the state is most certainly not here to &quot;protect&quot; the rest of us. and from whom anyways, ourselves? we can&#039;t even feed ourselves? jesus. wake up. get angry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These &#8220;regulations&#8221; from the health dept. are most definitely about not wanting to see hungry and homeless people on the street- not about making sure they get safe food to eat. the city doesn&#8217;t want people making the mistake of thinking they can take care of themselves and live (even if it&#8217;s just for a hour a week) in a way that prefigures a world in which the state and their various regulations aren&#8217;t necessary. now there&#8217;s something to be scared about. heh.</p>
<p>but this argument that &#8220;poor&#8221; people should get the same &#8220;protection&#8221; from the state (ie- when sharing meals with FNB) that rich folks get(ie- people who pay for their prepared food)is just distracting. first- FNB is a SHARED MEAL in the park, on the street, etc&#8230; it is not a restaurant or a charity. it&#8217;s also a distraction b/c the notion is based on the misconception that the state is here to protect the poor, the hungry, the homeless. look around you. the state is here to protect the wealthy. in a liberal capitalist society like ours you can only buy your freedom and your &#8220;rights&#8221;, and if you can&#8217;t afford them, then you don&#8217;t get them. the state is here to protect private property and the lives of the rich and wealthy. the state is most certainly not here to &#8220;protect&#8221; the rest of us. and from whom anyways, ourselves? we can&#8217;t even feed ourselves? jesus. wake up. get angry.</p>
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